look at susanna martinez, ted cruz, marco rubio, et cetera, to see where we have leading voices. >> rick: last question, and quickly, optimism for the future of the gop? >> very optimistic. i was with jake and meghan not too long ago at the massachusetts republican convention today where we saw 60 cr's come out before their finals, not 24 days after suffering the defeat here in boston and just to see such positive and positive enthusiasm for the future. these kids are ready to get on their campuses in the spring and start recruiting. >> rick: great to speak with all three of you. hope we can keep the conversation going over the next couple of years. >> thanks for having us. >> arthel: coming up, american students are racking up loans and they're doing it fast, owing nearly $1 trillion and taxpayers may be on the line. could there be a repeat of the subprime mortgage crisis? >> rick: a favor repaid after super storm sandy, a group of new orleans firefighters traveling to new york city will tell you how they plan to help. >> it's a helpless feeling right now. as you can see, you have peopl